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I think this is great news, however, I always wonder how it can be carried out.
If that Vatican expilicitly says we must return to chant, polyphony and traditional hymns, or even to issue an outright ban on certain music, would people really pay attention and carry it out? No one can police every parish , why we can’t even police our hymnals. We all know there are “hymns” in modern Catholic hymnals that are heretical/have bad theology. And if everyone was “forced” to comply, can you imagine the US media, with all these crying people “O no, they won’t let us sing our favorite songs anymore…whaaaa!”
Don’t get me wrong, I think there should be a reform of the reform, and it’s time to bring back chant, polyphony, traditional hymns, and to have good modern compositioins. But I think we also have to be careful on how we do it, but it should be done. You know, to be honest with you, I don’t have any suggestions on how to win people’s hearts over or on how this should be carried out…….I
You have a point, Joe — regardless of what is said at tiara level, if the people at crook level and sanctuary level don’t go along, and the people at loft level don’t know what they’re doing or do know but have their hands tied, what can be done at pew level?
My priest is a terrific man, and a fine pastor in many ways, but after one single week of my programming the simplest Gregorian Sanctus, and ONLY at a Mass with a 25 voice scola to support the congregation, he said to drop it, the people didn’t sing it.
A new “hymn” that he hears somewhere and asks me to try to introduce becaseu he thinks it’s “catchy” we will use at every Mass for two months to familiarize them with it, but the prescribed music of Holy Mother Church, it’s one shot and adios.
He said,” the people don’t know Latin any more.”
When I asked if if he didn’t want them to learn he said no, and left the room.
So, what can we do?
EDUCATE.
Am I going to change the hearts and minds of the balding guys with big guts hanging over their jeans who are wailing away on their drums and guitars in the sanctuary every week in a vain attempt to relive the glory days of ther garage band youth’s?
Almost certainly not.
But I teach every child I can get my hands on, a Jesus Dulcis Memoria here, the Kyrie from the Missa de Angelis there, the chanted Litany of the Saints; I play Gregorian melodies as “filler”, as liturgical cocktail music every chance I get so that Salve Regina can burrow its way into the ears and hearts for the PIPs who are content to croon Hail Mary Gentle Woman for now; I show the cantor who loves the dreadful Celebration psalms how much easier it is to chant on a psalm tone at 7:00 am Mass during flue and cold season…
I do what I can.
I do what I can get away with.
I feel like a mole, I feel the the French resistance, I feel like I’m living and working in a system I’m trying to subvert.
Advent is a poignant time, no?
All that prayer about waiting and hoping…
The Leper
“The people don’t know it” is one of the most common excuse for keeping chant out of Mass. One way to pre-empt this is to introduce chant with the rationale that the people need to get to know it. The retort can also be given: “Fr., the surest way to make sure that the people don’t know something is to never sing it.”
>The retort can also be given: “Fr.,
>the surest way to make sure that
>the people don’t know something
>is to never sing it.”
Which, despite his having had the Church’s express thoughts on this pointed out to him, is his obvious aim.
>He said,” the people don’t know
>Latin any more.” When I asked
> if he didn’t want them to learn
>he said no, and left the room.
So burrowing on,
The mole, AKA the Leper
The goal is always to find the workaround, not just give up. Lots of times pastors really are concerned about being “pastoral”–that is, they don’t want to approve of things that will alienate people (and yes, this standards are often hypocritical since Latin lovers are alienated all the time). Most pastors just want to make sure that what the musicians do is defensible in the sense that they have a good retort to offer those who will complain about chant and Latin, report them to the Office of Liturgy or whatever. If you give an effective one that they can use later, you can often make headway. The burden of evidence and demonstration always falls on those who want to make a change–so this is nothing new.
>The goal is always to find the
>workaround, not just give up.
Oh, absolutely, I’m still continuing my subversive ways.
>Lots of times pastors really are
>concerned about being “pastoral”
Would that that were the case.
Dr Ed Shaefer says that we should remember that chant can take us to another time, another place — and that we need to remember, for some people that’s a place and a time they just don’t want to go.
But when Nero finally kicks it, and the empire falls, Britannicus, who has been biding his time, will come back to restore the republic.
Or so I, Claudius, believe.
The five to eight year olds who argue over whether the Kyrie from the Missa de Angelis, (which I have taught them but never yet allowed them to sing at Mass,) or “Ubi caritas” (which is their “warm up,”) is their “very, very favoritest song!” are primed and ready.
French Resistance…WWII or Durufle, Faure, etc…anyway…..
a little off topic..
speaking of which, I highly recommend the Durufle Requiem, if no one has heard it, Durufle takes the chants from the Missa Pro Defunctis and writes lush 20th century (not as modern as Messien) harmonies and choral elaborations on them, he also follows the same scheme as Faure.
getting back to topic…I just finished reading Day’s “Why Catholics Can’t Sing” and a comment above about the priest’s refusual for a Latin Sanctus reminded me of several instances in the book, and I think it is truly sickening when members of the clergy do not follow the dictates of V2 and dismiss all things traditional right off the bat. Although we all know this, its amazing how when we want to do things “traditional” and the opposing person says “O but Vatican II…” If they only knew what Vatican II really said…I think its disgusting/disheartening to see that for all the recomendations, how few are actually used.








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